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ABC already posted a recap of the presidential debate that, uh, hasn't started yet.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040930_1184.html

The media fucking scares me.


CORAL GABLES, Fla. Sept. 30, 2004 — After a deluge of campaign speeches and hostile television ads, President Bush and challenger John Kerry got their chance to face each other directly Thursday night before an audience of tens of millions of voters in a high-stakes debate about terrorism, the Iraq war and the bloody aftermath.

The 90-minute encounter was particularly crucial for Kerry, trailing slightly in the polls and struggling for momentum less than five weeks before the election. The Democratic candidate faced the challenge of presenting himself as a credible commander in chief after a torrent of Republican criticism that he was prone to changing his positions.

Date: 2004-09-30 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nogoodnik.livejournal.com
what in the crap!?!!?!???

GOOD LORD

Date: 2004-09-30 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] margolia.livejournal.com
I read this to my office and we all just died. Jeez.

Date: 2004-09-30 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freak1c.livejournal.com
WTF!!!???

That's about the creepiest thing I've read in a while.

Thanks for posting it.

Wow...

Date: 2004-09-30 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This is a little scary, however it was simply a premature post. Reporters often prepare an early draft of a story before an event and update it with the specifics of what really happened, but this should never have been posted.

Unfortunately, this also reveals that the media is laced with bias and prejudice, and the past 4 years it has been in favour of the fascisti Republicans. More oftten than not they are far less critical with the Bush presidency than they should be, and far more critical of the Kerry candidacy than they should be. ABC News is a relatively (and this is a weighted word) even-handed network, possibly slightly right leaning, but doesn't nit-pick Kerry more than they do Bush so the story, in spite of reporting the outcome, does discuss it in vague terms, easy to correct post-debate.

Back in 1948 when Truman ran against Dewey for the presidency, one paper published it's morning edition with the words in 6 inch type "Dewey Wins" even though Truman had carried the election. This just goes to show that the press has become lazy and no one should get their news from one source.

that's it...

Re: Wow...

Date: 2004-09-30 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
ABC NEWS has removed the link and posts a "Sorry this content is not available." page...

Glad to know someone is listening.

Re: Wow...

Date: 2004-09-30 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] axessdenyd.livejournal.com
Uh, I don't know what you're been looking at, but every bit of TV media I've seen is strongly left-wing except FOX.

Re: Wow...

Date: 2004-09-30 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Uh, no, they aren't. They tout all the right wing talking points and never hold the President to the fire, he gets a pass so often it's ridiculous. But they fail to explain that according to records, Kerry is NOT a flip flopper, but actually sees the world in the various shades of grey that are a more accruate representation of reality than Bush's insipid "yer with us or agin' us" nonsense. Nothing in the world is black and white, and only a fool believes so. Anyone who fails to re-evaluate policy or opinion in the light of new information is dangerously misled about the value of being single-minded. There's that old expression, "cutting off one's nose to spite your face"... and it hold true here.

But, that is subjective, so it is open to interpretation. My opinion holds that they (the networks) do as best they can to appear to be balanced, but don't call the Repbulican administration on their many "twists" of the truth and the obnoxious spin they put on everything. But they do carry all that swift boat nonsense, and they do carry the fact that the controversial documents on Bush's service were forgeries, but they omit to carry the fact that according to many, including the statement by the secretary that would have written the original documents, that their content was accurate, even if the copies she saw were bogus. I'm not sure that in the end it is proof of a left or right leaning bias in the news media, but it is testament to the endemic plague of lazy journalism where facts are not checked, and stories not followed up.

And that is that...

Date: 2004-09-30 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oceanic.livejournal.com
*holds head in pain*

Date: 2004-10-01 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gatz.livejournal.com
With the networks pre-empting everything tonight (even CSI, which says something), it would be easy for peopel to see the debate, if only to see this report proved right [wrong]. From what I saw (some of the debate itself as well as TDS' coverage thereof), Kerry gave nice, solid, concrete answers, while the prez, when he found himself struggling [on each question], he just ran back to his flip-flop adgenda. If the next 2 debates go this way hopefully the debates will have the same effect they've had in the past on elections...and this talking sock monkey will be kicked to the proverbial curb.

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